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  • Lou just became a legitimate problem for the movement

     BLVCKH3VRT updated 1 year, 3 months ago 33 Members · 59 Posts
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  • Hit-Monkey

    Member
    June 10, 2021 at 11:52 am

    Well if there was any doubt before today should clear it. Both twitter and Redit are full of vulnerable Apes freaking out over this “10 day trade delay”crap! And that came from Lou and nowhere else. No DD, no proof just him starting a rumor and combined with today’s dip (one that we all expected on some level), new traders are setting their hair on fire. I’m upgrading him from fool to infiltrator in my book.

  • DrStibbley

    Member
    June 10, 2021 at 11:30 pm

    I’m not certain that Lou is the problem, so much as reddit is the problem. Reddit has become completely infiltrated by shills today. If it isn’t the posts being put up by shills, it’s the reactions within the posts that are. Don’t get me wrong, Lou is a problem… I just don’t think he’s THE problem. At least with Reddit.

    • Shawn

      Administrator
      June 10, 2021 at 11:38 pm

      Shills will be banned here

    • Hit-Monkey

      Member
      June 11, 2021 at 12:40 am

      Agreed, it’s growing from all sides. I just mention one specific because there are so many that are newer to what we’re doing here that seem to take his word as gospel.

    • Mike Manfredo

      Member
      June 11, 2021 at 7:32 am

      I read some of the Reddit forums, but there a lot of weeds to cut through to find something of interest. Lou he’s nuts. But I get him. He’s a straight shooter, perhaps it’s a NY thing. He’s been called out on some things that turned to be fairly accurate so, I rather listen to a nut that I understand than a shill on Reddit

  • HodlPro

    Member
    June 11, 2021 at 1:18 am

    Found this site googling Lou VS Wallstreet trying to get some background info on the guy lol…Lou was definitely a breathe of fresh air when he first came onto the scene because he was different than all other youtubers who were covering AMC. But lately his videos have been really sketchy and has me questioning his motives. It’s almost like he talks out of his ass and never gives factual information to back up his statements. Dude has manipulative tendencies for sure. He’s feeding on the anxiety of our community especially the new investors. We all want to be obtain that life changing money…all the FUD and crazy rumors that have no worthy research to back it up is hurting our community.

    Keep Holding Family…Rant over lol

    • CWP

      Member
      June 12, 2021 at 3:00 pm

      >Lou was definitely a breathe of fresh air when he first came onto the scene

      Maybe but even thing Lou was putting on an act to attract viewers. Lou has never been real or honest – only people are starting to see it now.

  • VictorM

    Member
    June 11, 2021 at 4:59 am

    I was following him too but picked up quick on some of the things he said. I was also speaking to some friends that were also listening to his videos and they all feel the same way. There are also certain people commenting on the videos but when you look at their profiles, they have only commented on his videos and are actually spreading FUD. No other comments in any other videos but Lou’s. Also speaking derogatively about certain YouTube individuals that we know are legit was also a hint. There was also an argument with a follower where he was threatening the guy with a lawsuit for defamation and later the guy ends up apologizing, making it looks like he’s got that kind of power but I think it was all a planned out act. I would think that for the kind of money that’s at risk, hedge funds will swim until they can’t no more but will be a battle till the end. This is the money from the 1% so expect a dirty and bloody one…

  • blue-moves

    Member
    June 11, 2021 at 6:32 am

    WTF??
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deYtxMRzhRc

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 3 months ago by  blue-moves.

    • jumblesofletters

      Member
      June 11, 2021 at 12:59 pm

      Does he even understand what a short squeeze is? I’m questioning his logic.

  • Luis Roman

    Member
    June 11, 2021 at 8:16 am

    <div>Interesting news article from 2006 on Lou.. thoughts? </div>

    https://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=124230&page=1

    • Hit-Monkey

      Member
      June 11, 2021 at 1:52 pm
      • BLVCKH3VRT

        Member
        June 11, 2021 at 3:48 pm

        lol these articles are hilarious! I wrote my opinions on him in the other thread and pretty much share the same thoughts as the other members here. I grew up in Brooklyn and I could tell what this guy was about from his first video. I didn’t realize he was a dirty rat stool pigeon like Henry Hill lol. I know the mafia is nowhere near what they were like back then but I’m sure they’d still love to take him out if he was an informant like this. He’s just a dummy for starting a channel and making himself vulnerable and open like he has done.

        I do have one question about something I read in that first article though; it was dated 2003 but the FBI agent said he was a 20 something year old kid when they were investigating him. Unless they started their investigation in the 80’s I can’t see how the Lou on YouTube would have been in his 20’s in the early 2000’s. Isn’t he like 60 years old now or thereabouts? It certainly sounds like his MO though. He a two bit fraudster and a dirty rat. And he’s manipulating so many less savvy apes and will cost them their life savings if they keep following his antics. I’m not cool with that. Apes don’t hurt apes. Apes don’t manipulate apes. Apes protect apes. He’s a piece of shit.

  • Oscar

    Member
    June 11, 2021 at 9:02 am

    I watch Lou and I comment on his stuff… But he loves money…and how much can a person say about a stock? Without giving to much away… Contradictory… Well take what you want from him… Leave out the rest… It feels like YouTube is open to all .. so how do you give a way secrets without giving away secrets? Everybody watches everybody… even the hedgehogs

  • LaurA009

    Member
    June 11, 2021 at 9:23 am

    Have you heard his last videos. I had the body language ghost do a video on the interview with Adam Aron with Trey. I am about to ask her to do one about Lou. He is now saying some crazy shit. Go watch the last 3 videos and tell me what you think. Holy shit this is huge what he just said. Im freaking out because I know so many people follow him. :/

    • CLAYnation

      Member
      June 11, 2021 at 1:43 pm

      I can’t figure out what he is trying to say his last few videos. The squeeze happened on their books…so what does that mean. Add their books with reality and you get some crazy number…wtf? I don’t believe that screenshot of their books anyway.

      • Hit-Monkey

        Member
        June 11, 2021 at 1:55 pm

        There you have it right there!! I have no idea how that screeshot managed to get the traction that it did so fast. There have been 50 just as convincing over the last 6 months and never caused a ripple. This one has some setting their hair on fire. I don’t get it.

  • jumblesofletters

    Member
    June 11, 2021 at 1:17 pm

    Yeah I’m not sure he even understands the basics of short squeezing. Sounds like a paper hands chimp to me. I’m thinking he cashed out when it got too uncomfortable. First he says the squeeze happened, now his newer videos he’s like “I’m waiting for the numbers to match what I want to sell it for.” Not verbatim, but he then went on to say “they haven’t covered”. Uh Lou. That’s when the squeeze happens. If the squeeze happened, then what are you talking about?

    I’m doubting he’s holding anything.

  • robodrill

    Member
    June 11, 2021 at 5:39 pm

    Lou is a lot like me in the early days of this ( My ape age is two months but that was soooooo March ago).

    The difference is I do not have a youtube channel, and I don’t blather everything I heard and I do not think I am leading the pitchforks toward the Bastille.

    But if I did blather every thought I have had for the last two months, I would sound wise 30 percent of the time, stupid 30 percent of the time, and clueless for the rest of the time.

    I watch Lou and see a guy just saying ” Viva Le Apes” and talking in very unspecific, unresearched terms.

    IMHO He is a cheerleader giving the hedgies the Bronx Cheer and should not be taken with much gravity.

    Shills are different. They want AMC to go “to the moon”, which they call 100 dollars a share. They talk about company valuation and long-term strategy for a play that has nothing to do with either.

    • Hit-Monkey

      Member
      June 11, 2021 at 5:51 pm

      1st, Your description for the time dilation surrounding the squeeze, BRILLIANT! Simply brilliant, I’ve been in this since Jan and I’ve aged 160 years… I’m not so sure this was the healthiest choice directly following the decade of 2020…

      2nd, on the shill aspect I have to agree, I’m normally much more careful with my choice of words but it had been a bad day. Personally though I stand by my thoughts on his becoming a dangerous distraction to the movement. He’s all about the attention he’s getting at this point. It’s the same problem that got his bail revoked and a prison sentence back in the day. And honestly, when you read up on the people he used to brag about robbing blind, well after I did, I wouldn’t trust him to walk my dog. I’m all about enthusiasm in this, we need all we can get! That’s not what I see in him… But that’s just me and full transparency, I love pineapple on my pizza…

    • StockinAF

      Member
      June 23, 2021 at 11:14 am

      I agree and also recognize that this movement has always accounted for people in different financial situations Trey, Gabe and others say it there are so many of us that are going to HODL and do what we do… I am not worried. I have been here since January after the GME game and I don’t know if there ever was a movement that I believed in more. Enough that I have recruited so many… some that are in for the long haul and some that are in until it hits 1k… I have my few YouTubers… Gabe, Matt, Trey, Larry, Kenan. The first three are my grounders though… all in different ways. The new Apes they honestly will have to go through some dips and loses to trust that it will be okay like we all did. I think that is what builds the faith and makes this more amazing.. I think what is even more crazy is this community of Apes and the trust we can build which I would never feel could even be plausible online… Ape for life here…
      I am ready after all of this to start our own Hedgefund that shorts Hedgefunds… who is in?

  • Hit-Monkey

    Member
    June 11, 2021 at 6:58 pm

    Lou could not have proven my point better if he tried! This just came up since my last reply and I went and watched the videos mentioned. Please take a look for yourselves and let me know if you think he’s getting dangerous.

    Stop this before it starts! from amcstock

    • blue-moves

      Member
      June 11, 2021 at 7:44 pm

      crosspost from the other Lou thread:

      LOU SETTING A TRAP? APES ENGAGE IN MARKET MANIPULATION?

      I hope I’m overreacting but this here seems like a red alert moment.. this fuckin’ guy right now trying to cajole the ape army to publicly collude in a market play for Monday morning…

      (instructing his minions to spread it far and wide as a viral campaign to reach ALL the apes)

      We’ve already established that he’s either a hedge fund plant or a recidivist conman (who’s calling himself ‘the leader of the apes’). There IS no fucking leader – that’s why this community works.

      We don’t know each other, we’ve never met, we just like a stock and like to tell other people how much we like it and why.. and that’s perfectly legal.

      The ONLY way we win this war we’re in is if HEDGIE and the SYSTEM is provably criminal and WE did absolutely NOTHING wrong, just bought stocks for the price they were listed at and then the price went up..

      I think what Lou’s trying to pull is setting a TRAP. If the enemy can cry ‘collusion’ on the apes and make it stick and suddenly we can be said to have engaged in market manipulation then we’ve probably fucked it.

      Jesus, people, don’t do this thing on Monday – what? for a quick buck? – In a few months even XX holders could/will be millionaires and ALL WE HAVE TO DO is NOTHING. Just wait (and don’t sell).

      We’re stalking a gazelle and this idiot wants us all to break focus and go catch a fucking butterfly – NO distractions now, we got this but only if we stay cool and calm and don’t give ‘them’ ANY ammunition to use against us.

      Just my thoughts, I don’t know what I’m talking about.

      • Hit-Monkey

        Member
        June 11, 2021 at 7:53 pm

        Nice, I hadn’t caught this one. It’s about spot on in my book If nothing else it’s like he’s screaming to get the sec’s attention in those last 2 vids. We’ve been struggling to gain enough legitimacy for months just to get the media to stop calling AMC a meme stock. We’ve built a good reputation and it hasn’t come easy. This is all it might take to get us cast publicly as the villain when the market crashes after all that’s been done.

        • blue-moves

          Member
          June 11, 2021 at 9:28 pm

          just been reading through the comments on this video on youtube.

          lol

          totally backfired..

          minions resigning in droves!

          everyone’s like, GTFOH, AMC or bust!

          brilliant!

      • BLVCKH3VRT

        Member
        June 11, 2021 at 11:33 pm

        If he’s truly trying to get people to actually manipulate a stock with him then we have to get the word out to the Apes with the most social media influence on YouTube and Twitter and Reddit to publicly denounce this idiot and distance ourselves from anything remotely like this. I was on WSB for years before GME and even watched DFV/Roaringkitty when he was streaming back in November last year. I waited til the middle of December to finally have enough faith in his fine DD and invested in GME and then later in AMC in the 3rd week of January and haven’t looked back. One thing I am absolutely certain of, and I would never have been a part of, is the fact that not once did I ever read any posts on WSB that suggested we should pump and dump any of these stocks. In fact it was quite the opposite; we may have pumped each other up a bit by sharing information on how deep the hedgies were in the shit with these shorts, but never did we suggest dumping the stock at all. As you guys know, people would be screaming hodl the line instead of sell. Of course plenty of paper handies sold but I attributed that to more of a panic selling after Robinhood and then subsequently all the wholesale brokers fucked us just as that thing had hit 500 in after hours and I 100% believe if they didn’t halt buying on January 27th that thing was going to 1000. You could just feel how primed and ready it was that night, and then came the wet blanket. But even after the hearings with congress and investigation they found no pump and dump, no manipulation at all. And even though WSB has branched off into its AMC subreddits and it’s GME subreddits and this whole thing killed a great community. The fact is when I check out these individual subreddits I still have never seen anyone suggesting manipulation of any stocks. We may be retarded, but we’re not stupid lol. This was never about manipulation, this was about liking a few stocks and stopping a few hedgies from bankrupting companies that didn’t deserve that in their worst times with the Rona forbidding them from offering their services to the public or even giving them a fighting chance. And these same hedgies not giving a shit about the thousands of good people that work for these companies and depend on them to raise families and survive this shit show as well. AMC and GME are not memes to the over 30,000 people that are employed by the two companies collectively. And they have to listen to these shill CNBC journalists make fun of them and their livelihood as they are paid off by Shitadel and Melvin to blatantly lie on air and try to call retail investors the manipulators in this scenario. Nope, we have finally gotten to a spot where media is starting to see the forest through the trees and are actually talking about naked shorts on national news. And they are getting fed up with the hedgies continuously shorting these stocks and digging themselves deeper instead of covering like they could have months ago. Now everyone knows we own the float, all we have to do is hodl from here and eureka is just over that hill.

        Well I’ll be G Damned if I’m gonna let some fat tub of shit, two bit hustler, rat bastard, stool pigeon jag off ruin this for us in the final stages. If they try and pull a stunt like that and the ape moniker is attached to that trade then they’ll go after every ape no matter what stock you like. It will be the excuse they’ve been clamoring for so they can finally take out our real and genuine movement. Try and get word to the YouTube guys like Matt and Trey and whoever else you guys respect, and I’ll talk to some people on Twitter and Reddit and maybe we can nip this thing in the bud.

        I don’t have a problem with lou making his videos or whatever, that’s his thing and good for him if people fall for his bs, but there most definitely is a line in the sand here, and things like condoning or orchestrating manipulation is something that absolutely crosses that line.

        • CWP

          Member
          June 12, 2021 at 3:07 pm

          tweeted out the warning – but everyone on here should tweet it out too. There are more apes on twitter now than on reddit, and far more on reddit than on here.

    • Lola Bunny

      Member
      June 11, 2021 at 8:48 pm

      I 100% agree with you. Whatever his reasons are for creating a YouTube channel, his actions are causing problems for the rest of us and I’m done with him. His videos are like watching a car crash about to happen. He shows copies of emails on his Instagram that are from him to bravo or whomever. What does that prove? Anyone can write bravo an email. Where is the email from Bravo with a date and time stamp on it and his response if he is being so transparent with us? Everything he says and shows seems like bullshit to me. I dont care what he does with his channel, but I do care when it gets in the way of all of us making life changing money. So, he can go F his mother for all I care. I wish he would stfu. 🙄

      • Hit-Monkey

        Member
        June 11, 2021 at 8:50 pm

        <div>

        🤣🤣🤣👍Well said!

        </div>

        • MegaKong

          Member
          June 11, 2021 at 9:46 pm

          WOW.. after today no more Lou for APe. This is obvious he is trying to set up good Apes. Lou Bad for Apes. Say no to Lou.

          • Lola Bunny

            Member
            June 12, 2021 at 12:55 am

            🙌🙌

        • Lola Bunny

          Member
          June 12, 2021 at 12:54 am

          😄 Thanks, my friend!

      • Shar13

        Member
        June 23, 2021 at 11:28 pm

        I’m totally new the the market. Bought AMC back in March. I searched YouTube and settled on Trey’s Trades, Matt Kohrs, Roench Capital and Review Dork as the ones to listen to, consider their views and non financial opinions. I watched Lou vs Wallstreet once, for about 3 minutes, opinion of his legitimacy was made quickly. I’m not surprised by these posts.

  • Oscar

    Member
    June 11, 2021 at 10:01 pm

    Um someone ( in a nutshell) wrote that Lou is colluding and conspiring against the movement. And trying to get everyone on a conspiracy of market manipulation charge.. And that he is leading everyone to investors demise… But couldn’t ape crayons be considered the same thing, a bunch of folks in a chat room talking about GME and AMC? I dunno. What to believe at this point but.. if a small investment does end up exposing criminal activity,

    Then one,, I want my money,

    And two, ,, I hope having a discussion room doesn’t come back to haunt anyone… Peace..

    • BLVCKH3VRT

      Member
      June 11, 2021 at 11:59 pm

      The difference between what he was suggesting and what apes talk about on forums like this and others is that we don’t condone the pumping and dumping of AMC and GME, that is where the manipulation comes into play. Simply having a bunch of people together and talking about stocks and which ones you like has been going on for years. The hedge funds used to host extravagant dinners and invite wealthy investors to join them and talk about what they’ll be investing in. Basically half of the money in the United States would plan what companies to invest in to further their empires going forward. You can Google investor dinner clubs and read about their history. And then you got people like Cramer coming on every night pumping his shit stocks to millions of households and its all legal under the “entertainment purposes” umbrella as long as he’s not telling you when exactly to buy and when exactly to sell. But it becomes manipulation when someone is suggesting you should get in with them and pump up the stock and you can make a shit ton of money. Well, you can only make this money when you sell to the poor schmucks that will be left holding the bags as you smoke a stogie and have a nice glass of Johnnie Walker Blue as the stock plummets and the fella you sold to because he got a nice “tip” from a cool YouTuber and now he just watched his life savings get pissed away in a matter of minutes. That’s manipulation.

      • blue-moves

        Member
        June 12, 2021 at 8:01 am

        Yes indeed.

        It would be clear to anyone investigating this forum that we’re here trying TO stop market manipulation from happening. To END the rotten and corrupt ‘norms’ of the markets as they’ve become and to usher in a new dawn characterised by fairer market practices where certain sectors (i.e. small investors like all of us) are NOT severely disadvantaged ‘by design’.

        We’re here to resist forces whose ‘business plan’ is to drive a thousand struggling companies a year into the dust and who profit obscenely from doing so – at the expense of our families, ourselves, the wider economy and the very fabric of society.

        Companies who are struggling deserve the fair chance to correct their course according to the changing zeitgeist around them and not just to be ‘terminated’ for a fund manager’s payday..

        No one here is breaking the law except the hedge funds and their collaborators. We’ve come to understand that their interests are threatened to such a degree that they would set up a ‘sting’ to rob us of what little (legal) agency we have to resist and we are trying to warn fellow retail investors NOT to have anything to do with collusion.

        • blue-moves

          Member
          June 12, 2021 at 8:15 am

          👆that said – I’ve never been near Twitter so I can’t @ Trey & Matt etc.
          I know from screenshots I’ve seen that certainly at least Trey has a Twitter account (not sure about Matt).
          Is anyone here on Twitter?
          Could someone at least make sure Trey & Matt know that Lou is attempting to lure the community into legal jeopardy?
          I’ve posted warning on my facebook ‘ape’ groups and responded to lots of comments on the video’s thread where people were cheerleading his ‘plan’.
          Make sure you warn apes that YOU know and make sure they warn apes that THEY know.

          • BLVCKH3VRT

            Member
            June 12, 2021 at 12:36 pm

            Yeah they all have Twitter, I think I might be following them on there. I know I have DM’d Matt a piece of art he was interested in so I’m thinking most of the YouTube CreAPEers are active on Twitter. I’ve actually seen Lou on there fighting with people not too long ago lol. He can’t go anywhere without causing a scene. I’ll DM the few influencers I trust and maybe they can at least drop a PSA stating whatever they’re talking about has nothing to do with the true apes. At least it’ll be on clear record before the act, if they actually do manage to pull off a move with that band of misfits lol.

            In all honesty I don’t think Lou has a move at all, or at least a different move than what everybody already knows about. We all know how to screen stocks and narrow down which ones would be prime for manipulation judging by their float alone. It’s just that we have an actual code of ethics and respect the market, and some of us just happen to have a conscience and have been bag holders in the past, so we know how it can be devastating to ones bank account and trust in our system. But yeah, I believe old Louie is just an attention seeking distraction from our true focus. I don’t think he’s a shill for the hedgies to be honest, I just think he’s a typical New York hustler and he saw an opportunity to take advantage of people legitimately trying to make a difference in their lives with these potentially massive gains we could bank if all goes well. I can’t imagine the hedgies, as dumb as they are would actually payroll this guy to pull a misdirection lol. You’d think they’d put someone in that position that actually can talk fundamentals and technicals and give believable confirmation bias instead of telling stories about all the crimes they’ve committed haha. He wants some sort of fame, and he’s using this opportunity to try and parlay it into some kind of show biz dreams. He’s a bum, Rock! Alrighty then, I’ll give the heads up to the twittersphere so we can remove ourselves from that shitshow they’re gonna try to pull off.

            • blue-moves

              Member
              June 12, 2021 at 1:01 pm

              He’s already posted that he’s not doing the Monday thing now – because of the pushback.
              In the video he’s threatening to sue someone who @ the SEC calling for him to be investigated.
              Call off the hounds!

            • BLVCKH3VRT

              Member
              June 12, 2021 at 2:49 pm

              lol sounds good. How much ya wanna bet he still tries some shit on Monday though? Guys like this have too much arrogance to realize they are doing something wrong. He’ll try and pull some slick shit and purposely try and screw us. I can already see it.

            • blue-moves

              Member
              June 12, 2021 at 3:22 pm

              I got flamed in a facebook group and banned! I was only trying to warn and people were calling me an idiot and a tin-foil-hat wearer for thinking Lou’s plan was any less legal than a “our top stock picks” piece in an investors’ magazine and for worrying that it could give the Gov more ‘probable cause’ than they already have to step in and squish the squeeze.
              I guess some apes see more of the shitfuckery that’s at play than others do..

              ps. I don’t want a bet – only a sure thing 😀

  • Texaswayz

    Member
    June 11, 2021 at 10:13 pm

    Iv been saying Fuk Lou since the beginning,then apes go at my neck…haha

  • HodlPro

    Member
    June 11, 2021 at 11:37 pm

    The guy is back at it again posting random screenshots on Twitter with absolutely no substance.

  • CWP

    Member
    June 12, 2021 at 2:58 pm

    Lou has been a problem. Lou is all sorts of things – but nothing that he pretends to be. Do some real research on his background and who he actually is.

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