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  • Citadel has been losing billions of dollars (AMC/GME)

     Natedubb updated 1 year, 2 months ago 7 Members · 10 Posts
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  • jakemaui

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    June 27, 2021 at 2:07 pm
  • Morefaith1

    Member
    June 28, 2021 at 4:25 pm

    Some big dogs placed AMC bets today ! 600k, 2M at end of Friday and market open Monday.

    • jakemaui

      Member
      June 28, 2021 at 6:06 pm

      Wow – that’s fantastic !!

  • Obiiiii

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    June 30, 2021 at 2:09 pm

    😈😈 bullish

  • Waronwallst

    Member
    June 30, 2021 at 6:27 pm

    Just don’t dance πŸ˜‰

  • Curunir

    Member
    July 2, 2021 at 10:25 am

    You have to wonder just how long they can keep bleeding cash…or if there is some secret shit they are doing behind the scenes to keep the value repressed in another way.

    When they hit the bottom we’re going to see just how tight this spring is coiled.

    • Natedubb

      Member
      July 2, 2021 at 11:12 am

      Kinda piggy backing off of what you commented, I wonder the same thing often. At the end of the day when these shorts have to cover who’s going to be flipping the bill? Uncle Sam? It’s very frustrating watching this shit play out, listening to these guys play smoke and mirrors as if their actually doing anything about this financial treason happening. Talking about payment for order flow and BS…. That’s not what we are worried about, we are concerned with the fact that we don’t have access to the same data and at the same time these hedgies do, concerned about the fact that nobody tells you your actually trading against giant ass servers that do fast trading to manipulate the market, nobody tells you that 60% of the trades on ur stock are not even done on the market u bought your shares from, nobody tells you this stuff when you download the Robinhood app and try to learn to be a day trader because times are so hard rn. Nobody tells you that the price you see for your stocks is not even relevant…. They don’t tell us it’s a rigged game…. We have fought hard to get here, I have learned so much this last month and a half man, more than just the grotesque disadvantages retail investors suffer, but about life. I’ve learned to take a risk for my family because I want to provide for them, learned patience and humility. Learned to HODL no matter what, even if I gotta eat top ramen so the kids and Prego gf can eat right, that’s what I do, if I loose my few grand in this, I loose it, but at least I can hold my head high knowing I took on the establishment and was a part of change. πŸ¦πŸ™ˆπŸ¦§πŸ’πŸ¦πŸ—œοΈπŸŒπŸŒπŸŒ

      • Curunir

        Member
        July 2, 2021 at 11:30 am

        Exactly.

        We all want the prize at the end, obviously. This is a chance to make things better for ourselves and those we care about. <font face=”inherit”>But it’s also the best chance we have to see a change for the future. </font>

        <font face=”inherit”>More people are opening up to the lies and manipulation of the media and corporations. People who just a few months ago trusted what they saw on the news because “it IS the news” now are seeing first hand how those anchors will tell only partial truths, censor and manipulate interviews and spin stories to feed people what they want them to hear and see.</font>

        <font face=”inherit”>Some businesses and politicians are saying WE are the </font>manipulators<font face=”inherit”> and the threat because they don’t want to risk their status quo.

        And even though many of us already knew we were not playing in the same league as the big financial institutions we never realized that we were not even on the same field and that they have been lying to us about how the game is played.

        This is our chance to make some amazing money. This is our chance to shine a light in the dark corners they hid from us so well we never even knew to look. And all we have to do is buy if you can, hold what you have, and don’t let them stop talking about it.</font>

        • CrayonMuncher

          Member
          July 2, 2021 at 11:48 am

          I have to agree with all the points made. What gets me irritated is the allowed conflict of interest of Citadel.

          Think about it. Primarily, they direct order flow (about 47% of all market activity). They see the orders coming in and direct traffic…at least that’s what they are supposed to do.

          Now, mix in PFOF and allow them to also participate trading in the very market they direct traffic for. How are they NOT going to look for an advantage and use it?

          Ideally it seems to make sense that traffic directors cannot trade and traders cannot direct traffic. If those lines clearly separated those activities, then there is a little bit more fairness.

          Apply that same logic to the DTCC. What if the DTCC who not only process/clear the orders, were also allowed to trade on those very same orders? All orders could get taken advantage of again. So, how was the average retail investor not set up for failure in these scenarios? All along the path of the order, each group that sees orders and has a hand in it could gain an advantage before your order is even placed, and you are none the wiser.

          Unfortunately, I doubt this topic is going to get any attention from the SEC.

        • Natedubb

          Member
          July 5, 2021 at 4:52 pm

          They do try to paint us the market manipulators ironically. They say we use the internet to meet up and discuss trading ideas … I ask that the folks that say I’d believe this travel back to when the “Idea Dinners” were investigated by our pointless SEC… I plan to write more maybe about it …

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